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[05:38:21] <somat> halo... halo...
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[16:27:36] <anna_delune> met sore
[16:27:45] <azoy> sor_e
[16:29:03] <anna_delune> hai azoy
[16:30:06] <azoy> yap. hai juga
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[16:32:04] <anna_delune> banyak orang tapi sepi
[16:33:51] <azoy> haha
[16:33:55] <azoy> ya gini ini kan #blankon
[16:34:37] <anna_delune> yoa
[16:34:51] <anna_delune> dah 2 hari ni aku liat gk da yang saling berinteraksi
[16:35:11] <anna_delune> apa kn kurang malem yak
[16:35:11] <anna_delune> *krn
[16:36:18] <azoy> iya pada nyimpen tenaga kale
[16:37:33] <anna_delune> buat rilis blankon yak hahaha
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[18:33:18] <hatake-kakashi> kelas blankon dimana ya ?
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[20:00:44] <mht> malam..
[20:01:22] <mdamt> Ga ada orang.
[20:02:22] <mdamt> Ga jadi kayaknya ini.
[20:03:05] <mht> blm kali, sabar mdamt... ;)
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[20:06:00] <mht> nah tuh baru pada nongol
[20:06:24] <mht> btw, mdamt, untuk repo rilis nanti kita pake model freeze segala gak?
[20:07:17] <mdamt> Model freeze itu bagaimana?
[20:08:23] <mht> mungkin pada beberapa hari sebelum rilis semua paket yg dibutuhkan dicopy ke repo tersendiri
[20:08:54] <mht> supaya waktu bikin jahitan harian beberapa hari sebelum rilis gak ada yang keduluan ama punya ubuntu
[20:09:20] <mdamt> Sekarang udah pakai cara itu.
[20:10:01] <mht> repo tsb gak disinkronkan dengan repo ubuntu sampai waktu rilis?
[20:10:27] <mdamt> Mmm itu mungkin bisa dijawab imtheface yg nyiapkan repo tsb.
[20:10:45] <mht> mana nih imtheface?
[20:10:58] <mdamt> Mungkin lagi bikin indomie. :-D
[20:12:02] <mdamt> mht: Dah cobain yg minimalis?
[20:12:11] <mdamt> Saya coba di 256 MB cukup responsif nih.
[20:12:26] <mht> belum, lagi fakir bandwith ;D
[20:12:36] <mdamt> 128 MB ga bisa masuk desktop sempurna :-D
[20:12:41] <mht> targetnya bukan 128? ;)
[20:12:58] <imtheface> mht: skr juga dah pake model freeze
[20:13:05] <imtheface> 1 hari ditaro di kulkas
[20:13:08] <mdamt> Iya, masih banyak yg masih bisa dioprek sebenarnya.
[20:13:29] <mht> imtheface, untuk beta ama rilis mau di freeze brp hari?
[20:13:42] <imtheface> terserah, mau berapa hari?
[20:13:47] <imtheface> 3 hari aja yah?
[20:13:53] <imtheface> ntar gw stop cronnya
[20:14:31] <mht> untuk beta ok juga, kalo untuk rilis kali 5 hari
[20:14:41] <mht> supaya cukup waktu juga untuk ngetesnya
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[20:14:49] <imtheface> ok
[20:14:59] * udienz- ON lagi :p
[20:16:01] <hatake-kakashi> ini yang tim tester siapa saja ya ?
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[20:17:42] <azoy> saia tester
[20:18:16] <udienz-> hatake-kakashi: sorry kemarin mirror down (mati lampu) baru tadi siang hidup :p
[20:18:34] <mht> na itu pak takdir datang
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[20:18:50] <mht> pak takdir, target minimalis 128 jalan baugs? ;)
[20:18:59] <imtheface> mht: http://dev.blankonlinux.or.id/wiki/PersiapanRilisBeta
[20:19:00] <mdamt> Takdir: bluetooth applet masih jalan tuh di minimalis
[20:19:04] <imtheface> dah gw tulis disitu
[20:19:09] <imtheface> tolong diingatkan
[20:19:10] <hatake-kakashi> udienz : skarang udah nyala ?
[20:19:11] <imtheface> thx
[20:19:13] <mdamt> Trus bagaimana caranya matikan update-notifier di livecd minimalis.
[20:19:17] <mdamt> Trus bagaimana caranya matikan update-notifier di livecd minimalis?
[20:19:29] <mdamt> Toh livecd tidak perlu pemberitahuan paket baru.
[20:19:44] <mdamt> Tapi update-notifier harus tetap nyala di instalasi target.
[20:19:49] <imtheface> itu di session
[20:19:57] <udienz-> hatake-kakashi: udah
[20:19:58] <mdamt> update-notifier dan bluetooth applet total makan sekitar 3 mega.
[20:20:01] <imtheface> toel aja tukang paket gnome-session
[20:20:18] <mdamt> imtheface: Si update-notifier itu masuk ke autostartnya xdg.
[20:20:28] <mdamt> Jadi bukan dari gnome-session.
[20:20:31] <mdamt> bt applet juga.
[20:20:50] <mdamt> Di HH, bt applet emang ada di schemanya gnome-panel-data.
[20:20:53] <takdir> mht: tadi test di 256 virtualBox jalan bagus, yang live CD jahitan tgl 18, belum coba di install di pc sebelah
[20:20:54] <imtheface> tp klo liat di gnome-session ada entri 2 itu
[20:21:00] <mdamt> Di Ibex dia punya entri sendiri di autostart.
[20:21:05] <mdamt> /etc/xdg/autostart
[20:21:15] <imtheface> ya berarti oprek aja xdg
[20:21:23] <imtheface> sok bos dipersilakan
[20:21:23] <hatake-kakashi> takdir, 256 di virtual box kalo procesor kita kenceng terasa kenceng om
[20:21:25] <imtheface> hehehehe
[20:21:27] <mdamt> Ga bisa semudah itu.
[20:21:42] <mdamt> Kalo xdg dioprek, kan waktu instal si ubiquity akan nyalin isi livecd ke target.
[20:22:01] <mdamt> Nah gimana carane supaya walaupun di livecd kita matikan sesuatu tapi di target tetap nyala.
[20:22:19] <mdamt> btapplet mungkin ga perlu nyala, tapi update-notifier mesti nyala di target.
[20:22:20] <imtheface> nah klo yg itu si gw blum ada bayangan
[20:22:41] <mdamt> Keknya mesti oprek si ubiquity, bagian nyalin.
[20:23:08] <imtheface> ubiquity bukannya cuman ngurus installer aja
[20:23:25] <mdamt> Misale waktu bikin CD, berkas yg di /etc/xdg/autostart "diumpetin" dulu, trus waktu nyalin, si ubiquity ngambil berkas2 yg disembunyikan itu dan menyalin ke target.
[20:23:38] <mht> imtheface, liat link yg lu kasih jadinya freeze 7 hari sebelum rilis ajah ;)
[20:23:48] <takdir> hatake-kakashi: akan dicoba fresh install setelah donlot iso 20081019 :D
[20:23:52] <mdamt> Ya kan ubiquity cara kerjanya, cuma nyalin semua isi livecd kemudian hapus semua paket2 selain blankon-desktop.
[20:24:02] <imtheface> mht: gak ah minus 3 hari
[20:24:28] <mht> tergantung tim tester juga sih
[20:24:33] <mht> tanyain gih :)
[20:24:36] <mdamt> takdir: Jadi btapplet di ibex rasanya ga perlu dimasukkan ke bibit minmalis?
[20:24:37] <imtheface> mht: 7 hari udah lewat
[20:24:49] <imtheface> rilis beta tinggal 5 hari lagi
[20:24:50] <imtheface> :P
[20:25:08] <mdamt> Nama paketnya "bluez-gnome"
[20:25:19] <mht> oh sori, ini yg beta ya? kirain versi rilis :)
[20:25:36] <mdamt> Heheh diskusinya pabaliut :-D
[20:25:43] <imtheface> mht: yg PersiapanRilisAkhir belum dibikin
[20:27:38] * takdir lagi baca dari atas ini, yang dibicarakan tentang apa saja :D
[20:28:18] <imtheface> udah ada yg nyoba tes upgrade rilis lontara ke meuligoe?
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[20:29:00] <mdamt> imtheface: Saya sudah.
[20:29:02] <azoy> apt-get dist-upgrade kah?
[20:29:13] <mdamt> Gagal kerna gnome-panel-data, problem klasik.
[20:29:14] <imtheface> mdamt: pake cara apa?
[20:29:22] <mdamt> Iya itu dist-upgrade.
[20:29:25] <mht> wah jadi membicarakan persiapan beta ;)
[20:29:26] <imtheface> ok
[20:29:45] <mht> mdamt, mulai gih trainingnya, gua mau jadi pendengar setia sajah
[20:30:10] <hatake-kakashi> mht: training udah dibatalkan
[20:30:14] <imtheface> ow ada kelas toh hari ini?
[20:30:27] <imtheface> wah gak jadi kenapa?
[20:30:41] <hatake-kakashi> imtheface: santrinya cuman 2 orang
[20:30:50] <imtheface> kasian bangat mdamt padahal keknya dah nyiapin materi dari dulu
[20:30:57] <imtheface> wah bisa2 pundung tuh :D
[20:31:31] <imtheface> ganti training bikin indomie mau?
[20:31:55] <imtheface> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpgradeTestingProcess
[20:32:06] <imtheface> blangkong gak ngikutin sistem itu yah?
[20:32:31] <hatake-kakashi> eh.. anu, logo blankon udah fix kan
[20:32:58] <mdamt> imtheface: Resiko kerja sukarela :-D
[20:33:26] <hatake-kakashi> mdamt: materinya dikirim ke email saja bos, sudah siap mbaca nih
[20:34:23] <mdamt> Saya ga siapkan materi.
[20:34:35] <barinix> saya bisa nyela gak yach
[20:34:39] <hatake-kakashi> mdamt: berarti siap batal :D
[20:34:41] <barinix> mau tanya2 dikit
[20:34:57] <imtheface> 1 pertanyaan bayar goceng
[20:35:03] <imtheface> :P
[20:35:25] <barinix> :)
[20:35:30] <hatake-kakashi> imtheface: kok anda jadi matre yak
[20:35:38] <barinix> boleh gax nii
[20:35:51] <mdamt> Iya nih, imtheface...
[20:35:55] <mdamt> Harusnya ceban.
[20:36:22] <hatake-kakashi> barinix: segera tanya daripada ditinggal kabur
[20:36:32] <barinix> hehehe
[20:36:36] <barinix> gini
[20:36:53] <barinix> saya kemarin habis pasang ubuntu 8.04
[20:37:00] <barinix> setelah tak update
[20:37:13] <barinix> dari sekitar 250an update-an
[20:37:25] <barinix> tinggal 18 update-an yg gax mau2
[20:37:36] <barinix> apa yg salah yax
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[20:40:52] <udienz-> barinix: dependensinya kali om
[20:41:14] <takdir> atau koneksi tiba2 putus ?
[20:41:58] <barinix> report-nya kayax gini mas
[20:42:00] <barinix> W: Failed to fetch http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2008e-1ubuntu0.8.04_all.deb
[20:42:01] <barinix> 404 Not Found
[20:42:06] <barinix> salah satunya
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[20:42:45] <anna_delune> hai all
[20:42:49] <anna_delune> wah penuh
[20:42:53] <anna_delune> :)
[20:43:14] <udienz-> hai... anna
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[20:43:43] <anna_delune> hai mas udienz-
[20:44:13] <barinix> ini salah satu contoh report-nya juga
[20:44:14] <barinix> W: Failed to fetch http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-3.0/firefox-3.0_3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.3_i386.deb
[20:44:15] <barinix> 404 Not Found
[20:44:24] <imtheface> out ah soalnya kelasnya gak jadi sih
[20:44:42] <imtheface> yuk ah mari
[20:44:44] <anna_delune> lho kok gk jadi
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[20:45:38] <barinix> kenapa ya.........sori dasar banget tanyanya :)
[20:46:05] <mdamt> barinix. Coba diklik, ada apa ngga di firefox?
[20:46:19] <mdamt> Kalo ga ada diulang aja lagi, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
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[20:47:39] <takdir> barinix: ganti sources.list nya, coba baca di sin http://wiki.ubuntu-id.org/SourcesListLokal
[20:49:38] <barinix> baik
[20:52:58] <takdir> mdamt: kalo tidak salah bluez-gnome sudah pernah dikasi tanda # di minimalist-desktop
[20:53:19] <mdamt> Bisa tulung dicek kembali?
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[20:53:33] <takdir> ternyata setelah cek masih ada :D
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[21:01:24] <hatake-kakashi> wah.. jadi sepi, gameku udah terlanjur close deh
[21:01:30] <barinix> tetep gagal thu
[21:01:54] <barinix> setelah saya apt-get update & apt-get upgrade
[21:02:03] <hatake-kakashi> barinix, pake repo apa (diarahin kemana ?)
[21:02:04] <mdamt> && bukan &
[21:04:17] <barinix> tetep om
[21:04:21] <barinix> Reading package lists... Done
[21:04:22] <barinix> bash: upgrade: command not found
[21:04:33] <mdamt> Salah ketik tuh.
[21:04:43] <mdamt> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:04:59] <barinix> iya saya pake itu
[21:05:20] <mdamt> Kalau pesannya "upgrade: ocmmand not found" berarti Anda salah ketik.
[21:05:30] <barinix> smkm@smkm-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[21:05:34] <barinix> gitu
[21:05:42] <mdamt> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:06:04] <mdamt> Perhatikan keduanya, mana yang berbeza?
[21:06:12] <barinix> :)
[21:07:11] <barinix> The following packages will be upgraded:
[21:07:12] <barinix> firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-gnome-support firefox-gnome-support gdb
[21:07:12] <barinix> hal-info jockey-common jockey-gtk libnautilus-extension1 libxml2
[21:07:12] <barinix> libxml2-utils nautilus nautilus-data python-libxml2 tzdata xulrunner-1.9
[21:07:12] <barinix> xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support yelp
[21:07:12] <barinix> 18 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:07:14] <barinix> Need to get 15,5MB/15,8MB of archives.
[21:07:16] <barinix> After this operation, 602kB of additional disk space will be used.
[21:07:18] <barinix> nuwun
[21:07:18] <mdamt> takdir: Pak kalau hal2 yang saya kemukakan di milis ttg minimalis sudah berhasil, bolhedirilis deh
[21:08:49] * mdamt padahal dulu bilang bakal puas kalo tiket 27 terpenuhi :-P
[21:09:29] <takdir> :D
[21:10:19] <imtheface> memang manusia itu tidak pernah ada puasnya
[21:10:24] <takdir> seharusnya dimasukkan ke tiket 27 juga
[21:10:29] <imtheface> trus aja nambah fitur
[21:10:56] <takdir> karena semua yang minimalist didiskusikan disitu :)
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[21:19:09] <mdamt> takdir: Saya ga bisa akses boi lagi.
[21:19:31] <mdamt> imtheface: Eit ini bukan nambah fitur. Tapi ngilangin fitur.
[21:24:19] <mdamt> Ini pabrik CD mesti bisa uninstal paket kali ya, untuk kasus xscreensaver.
[21:24:41] <mdamt> Dia ngambil xscreensaver gara2 kolom suggested itu waktu di germinate.
[21:32:15] <imtheface> perilaku apt mulai intrepid agak2 yg perlu diperhatikan tuh
[21:32:26] <imtheface> dia akan install paket2 Recommends
[21:33:35] <imtheface> shttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-June/025529.html
[21:33:46] <imtheface> s/shttps/https
[21:36:47] <imtheface> eh germinate live cd dia baca seeds apa aja?
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